My ARK Taming Calculator calculates the food, time and narcotics for taming the various creatures in ARK. This page is to hold any comments on the calculator and provide some background. This page was written as of V190 of ARK. Updated as of V234. Implementations of all the calculations discussed below can be found in the Taming Calculator.
Source code can be found here. Commits now serve as the changelog.
To-Do:
- Disallow invalid entries in all fields
- Add tooltips
- Determine steps to make the code work when downloaded
- Add new dinos / KO methods / foods
Dev Kit
Data Many of the figures required for the taming calculation are available via the dev kit. Instructions for acquiring the dev kit are here. Once in the dev kit, some useful numbers can be found by clicking the 'PrimalEarth' folder, filtering to blueprints, and entering the dino's (internal) name in the search bar, as seen in the image on the right. A list of the internal names can be found in PrimalEarth->Dinos, as each creature has a folder in that folder.
In the image three blueprints are selected, these are the ones relevant to taming calculation. The first is [Creature]_Character_BP. This blueprint contains information about the creature's taming affinity. Filtering the blueprint's properties by the term 'aff' will narrow the list down to the relevant values. "Required Tame Affinity" is the base level of affinity required for a creature of this type at level 0. "Required Tame Affinity Per Base Level" is the affinity gain per level of the creature (here "Base Level" presumably refers to the level before taming, as creatures now gain levels when tamed). A level 1 creature requires the initial affinity plus one level of the per-level affinity. You will also see references to Tame Ineffectiveness, which would presumably be used for taming effectiveness calculations, and "Waking Tames" which is the new non-violent taming method.
Next up is DinoCharacterStatusComponent_BP_[Creature]. This blueprint contains details about the creatures food consumption and torpidity rates. Filter by 'food' to get the food related values. The 'food' value at the very top looks like the creatures base food amount - the total food isn't of interest in taming (starving is generally not a risk taming creatures face) so I haven't done anything with it. The numbers we want are further down - "Base Food Consumption Rate" and "Prone Water Food Consumption Multiplier". The former is exactly what it says it is - the creatures food consumption rate. It says "Base", but it doesn't seem to vary by level (at least not when taming). This is a very small value - presumably so that tame dinos last a long time without food if they aren't moving around. The latter value is a multiplier which, despite the odd name, is applied when the dino is unconcious and being tamed. Mutliply these two numbers to get the actual food consumption rate per second while taming. Both of these numbers, and thus the resulting taming food consumption rate, seem to be fixed per-species at the moment.
Staying within the same blueprint, we can filter by 'torp' to highlight some torpor related values. The very first value is simply "Torpidity", and is the base torpor of the creature at level 1. Note that this is at level 1, not 0 as with the affinity discussed above. Next is the "Recovery Rate Status Value" which is part of the torpor reduction rate; I am not sure what this value is for on its own, perhaps the torpor reduction rate when tamed. This value seems to be -0.1 for all creatures. Skipping down to near the bottom we find "Knocked Out Torpidity Recovery Rate Multiplier". As you might guess, this is a multiplier for the torpor reduction rate when the creature is knocked out (e.g. when taming). Multiply this by the -0.1 from above to get the actual base torpor reduction rate. Note that this is the base rate, there is an increase in the torpor reduction rate per level, which will be discussed later. The final value we want from this blueprint is "The Max Torpor Increase Per base Level", which is the percentage of the creature's base torpor it gains per level after level 1 (as the base value is for level 1). This value seems to be 0.06 (i.e. 6%) for all creatures. Thus the torpor at a given level is the base torpor plus 6% of the base torpor times one less than the creature's level.
The final blueprint has a name like DinoSettings_[Type]_[Size]_[Creature], though it can vary a bit. In here you can find data on the affinity gained when each possible food is consumed. Drill down into "Food Effectiveness Multipliers" and "Extra Food Effectiveness Multipliers". The type of food can be found in "Food Item Parent", and the value we are interested in is the "Affinity Override", which is the amount of affinity gain when this type of food is eaten. For common foods the gain is the same across almost all creatures, though there are some exceptions. The "Food Effectiveness Multiplier" itself multiplies the amount of food given by the food type, which is important for taming calculation as it affects how fast the food is eaten. Look up the Food Item Parent and filter on status to get the "Use Item Add Character Status Values" tree, in which one will have a "Status Value Type" of "Food", meaning it affects food, and a "Base Amount to Add" which will tell you the base amount of food give, which is multiplied by the creature's effectiveness multiplier for that food.
Torpor Calcuation
Above I discussed where to find the base torpor and how to calculate the torpor per level of a creature, as well as the base torpor rate. There is a wrinkle in the torpor rate calculation however, as the rate increases with level, but not quite linearly. Long story short, I stared at some spreadsheets for a few hours after knocking out five summoned ankylos in singleplayer and recording their actual torpor reduction rates, and eventually realised that the relationship between level and torpor-recovery-rate-per-level resembled a power function. A bit of Excel goal-seeking gave me the constants in the function, which appear to be the same for all creatures at all levels. My data points are not precise, as the only way I know to measure torpor rates in game is with a stopwatch, and tuning the power function using different in-game tests results in slightly different exponent/coefficient pairs, each of which is most accurate on the tests they were tuned on, and slightly less accurate than the rest. So, this approach is only an approximation, however it has gotten me the most accurate overall results.
The rate increase per level can also be very closely approximated with a linear relationship. Taking my level/rate curve for a Spino (since I don't have access to the actual relationship), and minimising the RMSE between it and a linear function of level, I get an increase per level of about 0.01819, or about 1.8%, of base torpor rate. In the image to the right you can see a graph of the linear function, power function, and some data points from spinos I abused in singleplayer (many spinos were harmed in the making of this chart). I would expect it to be a linear function, as it just makes sense, and most things in the game are, but I get results closer to my in-game readings with the power function, so that is what I use in the calculator.
Narcotics Calculation
Narcotics calculation is now easy. You can calculate the total time taken to tame, and the rate at which torpor is lost. One times the other is the total torpor required, divide by the amount given by narcotics (40) and you have the number of narcotics.
Not quite. Narcotics not only increase torpor by 40, they also pause torpor reduction while applying the increase. Otherwise they would never actually increase the torpor by 40 in practice, as the torpor would have dropped further by the time the narcotic effect finished. Some empirical investigation revealed that narcotics add 40 torpor over the course of 8 seconds, during which torpor decrease is paused. If more narco is used, another 8 seconds is added for each narco. Furthermore, at the end of the narcotic effect, the torpor reduction remains paused for one more second, during which the torpor value stays put. This one second interval occurs regardless of how many narcotics were applied together. So, one narcotic gains you 9 seconds of no-torpor-reduction (8 to apply the effect plus 1), while two narcotics used at the same time (i.e. second narcotic applied while torpor is still rising due to the first) gains you 17 seconds of no-torpor-reduction (8 times 2 narcotics effects, plus 1 at the end).
So, the actual value of a narcotic is 40 plus the creature's torpor reduction rate times 8. I don't factor the extra second at the end into the calculations as I don't figure it is worth people's time to plan out exactly how many narcos they will apply at the same time. If they stagger them enough that the extra seconds save them some narco, yay them.
Non-Violent Taming
When calculating for non-violent taming, which is referred to as "waking tame" in the dev kit, all calculations regarding torpor can obviously be ignored. The other calculations start from the same base, there are just some additions to make. For food consumption rate, the initial rate is calculated as before, but now it must also be multiplied by "Waking Tame Food Consumption Rate Multiplier" from DinoCharacterStatusComponent_BP_[Creature], which makes creatures being tamed by hand feed faster. The affinity gain from food must also be adjusted, being multiplied by "Waking Tame Food Affinity Multiplier" from [Creature]_Character_BP. There are some other values which don't directly affect calculation in the same blueprint: "Waking Tame Feed Interval" is the minimum amount of time between feeds, assuming the creature is hungry enough to eat (hunger is the limiting factor on the Ichthy unless you let it starve a bit), and "Waking Tame Allowing Feeding Food Percentage" which sounds like it prevents you from feeding unless the dino is below a certain hunger threshold, and indeed in my testing I found that after starting the tame (at which point the ichthy it at full food) there is an abnormally long delay before I can feed it the second time, presumably due to this property. Since the stats of wild dinos cannot be predicted just by level, this delay cannot be calculated precisely in advance.
Of course, since creatures being fed by hand do not eat automatically, we can only calculate the minimum time to tame. If the creature is not fed on time, or runs away when you try to feed it, it will of course take longer (although you can potentially 'catch up' over the course of a long tame due to the feed interval outpacing the food drop rate).
Effectiveness Calculation
Taming effectiveness drops every time the creature eats an item of food. The drop rate is exponential, i.e. the rate at which effectiveness drops starts high and falls off very quickly, levelling off as you reach low levels of effectiveness. This suggests that the drop in effectiveness at each step is related to the current effectiveness . A quick test by giving freshly knocked out creatures only one piece of food shows that the drop in effectiveness also depends on the food and on the type of creature. However, the level of the creature does not matter. In [Creature]_Character_BP we find a value called "Tame Ineffectiveness by Affinity", which obviously links the affinity of the food item eaten with the amount of effectiveness lost. By testing with freshly knocked out creatures, which start at 100% effectiveness, we can eliminate the relation to current effectiveness, revealing that the effectiveness drop on any given creature is proportional to the amount of affinity the food item gives, and that the ineffectiveness multiplier is what makes that proportion different per creature. The rate, at 100% effectiveness, is actually the multiplier divided by the food's affinity value, times 100 to bring it to the correct order of magnitude. Now we must factor in the decay of the rate due to the drop of the actual effectiveness value. Since the rate appears exponential, we can try multiplying by the square of the current effectiveness, which gives us approximately the correct effectiveness/rate curve. To the right you can see a graph of actual effectiveness droprate data points for a Carno and Rex with different foods, and the computed curve for Carno/Raw Meat. This is the most inaccurate curve this formula generates, and it is still a fairly close fit. It also overestimates rather than underestimates the rate, so if the actual effectiveness differs it will be higher rather than lower.
It may seem that in order to calculate the effectiveness for a tame we would need to know the order in which food is given, for example it is far better to start a tame with Prime than with Raw meat. However, this is not actually the case. The graph to the right charts the effiency over the course of a tame using the above formula for a certain creature being given a fixed amount of Prime Meat, Prime Meat Jerky and Raw Meat, however the order is reversed for one of the curves. It turns out that they converge at the same effectiveness. This is because while better foods hold the creature at high effectiveness for longer if used early, being at high effectiveness for longer means spending a longer time with a high rate of effectiveness drop. Conversely if you use lower quality food at the start, you lose effectiveness quickly, but due to this the effectiveness drop rate lowers early as well, so the higher quality food delivered later is even more effective at minimising the drop rate.
Finally, the extra levels gained from effectiveness are currently 50% of the creatures untamed level times the final effectiveness. This is presumably a result of the value in DinoCharacterStatusComponent_BP_[Creature] called "Max Taming Effectiveness Base Level Multiplier", which is set to 50% for all creatures I have looked at. There is another multiplier in this blueprint called "Taming Ineffectiveness Multiplier", but this always seems to be set to 1 and so has no effect on anything.
Knocking Creatures Out
Creatures are typically knocked out by firing tranq arrows at them. To determine in advance how many we will need, we first need to know if the narcotic effect applies as it does with forcefeeding narcotics, and the amount of torpor applied by the darts. The answer to the first question, after some testing, is simply yes. In the case of tranq arrows the torpor is applied over five seconds regardless of the amount, and the one second pause at the end doesn't seem to happen, but other than that it is the same. If you know how many tranq arrows are needed to knock the creature out, you can just fire them off as fast as possible and then wait for the torpor to take effect. The difference in configuration between narcotics and tranq arrows (8 seconds vs 5) can be found in PrimalItemConsumable_Narcotic and DmgType_ProjectileWithImpactFX_Tranq. Filter each by "Status Value" and you will find the details of the torpor effect application, where narcotics are set to apply 40 at 5 per second (i.e. 8 seconds), and the tranq arrow damage type applies a variable amount over 5 seconds.
To find the torpor a weapon will do to a creature, we need the weapon and the damage type. Some obvious filtering will get you the weapons - "tranq" for anything involving tranquilizers, "club" for the club, etc. For creatures you want the Character BP discussed previously. For projectile weapon calculations, the projectile itself is considered the weapon, so there is no need to look up longnecks or bows, unless you want to find out the name of the projectile type, but the names are fairly self-explanatory anyway. Filtering the weapon's blueprint by "damage" will get you the damage value and damage type - exactly how this appears depends on the weapon type. In ProjArrow_Tranq_Bolt (tranq arrows from a crossbow) it is "Direct Damage" and "Direct Damage Type", for "WeapStoneClub" (the club) is it "Melee Damage Amount" and "Melee Damage Type". For creatures, you will find an AI section containing "Attack Infos" which will give the damage and damage type for each type of attack the creature has. The base damage done by the weapon/creature can also be affected by two values - the melee damage and the weapon damage. When these apply is mostly common sense - creatures only use their melee damage as they aren't really a weapon - bows don't use melee damage but do use weapon damage - clubs use both. In all damage type blueprints there are two relevant multipliers: "Damage Torpidity Increase Multiplier" and, inside the "Damage Character Status Value Modifiers" entry with "Value Type" "Torpidity", "Damage Multiplier Amount to Add". Both of these multipliers are applied seperately to the base damage done by the weapon/creature, and the two results are added to get the torpor applied. Thus the torpor applied by anything is always in direct proportion to the damage done, and the proportion itself only varies between weapons/creatures.
The torpor added in "Damage Character Status Value Modifiers" can be added over time as with a narcotic - and in some cases will stack if another hit lands while the previous torpor effect is still going (e.g. bows), while others will not (e.g. scorpion). This is irrelevant for calculation however, as the total number of hits doesn't change, it simply means people must know for each weapon/creature whether they can stack the hits or not. This may be controlled by "Limit Existing Modifier Description to Max Amount", which is set to 100 on types which don't stack, and set to 0 on those which do, but I have not checked throrougly.
Next, we know that creatures can take extra damage if you hit weakspots such as the head. Since torpor is calculated off the damage of the weapon, these weakpoints also affect torpor. In [Creature]_Character_BP we can find the values describing these weakpoints by filtering on the term "Damage". The the "Damage" section we will find "Bone Damage Adjusters", which control damage multiplication based on what part of the creatures skeleton was hit. You can open the creature's "Skeletal Mesh" to get a visualisation of where these points are, but in general the names make it pretty obvious. When calculating torpor, the location the arrow hits and the multiplier for that area (if any) must be factored in.
Creatures also have damage multipliers for incoming damage types. These are found in two locations - in the Character BP and in the DinoSettings BP. Both can be filtered by 'damage' to bring up the relevant sections. In the Character BP, the "Damage Type Adjusters" tree contains an entry for each damage type with a multiplier - the only multipliers relevant to knocking out you are likely to see here are multipliers to projectile weapons on fliers. In DinoSettings you will see the larger "Base Damage Type Adjusters" which contains multipliers for a number of damage types, at time of writing the only relevant ones which appear are Melee_Torpidity_StoneWeapon (club), Melee_Human (fists) and Melee_Dino_Herbivore (Pachy). All of the multipliers in both BPs apply to incoming damage and must be taken into account when calculating the torpor done. Importantly, these multipliers reference ancestor damage types, not the exact damage types you will see on knockout weapons/creatures. The multipliers actually apply to the named damage type or any descendant of that damage type. By going to a damage type and using the "Find Parent" button in the top right corner, you can trace your way up the tree of damage types to see what has what ancestors. All of the ancestor damage types must be taken into account as, for example, the club damage type has the ancestors HighTorpidity_StoneWeapon and Melee_Human, which means that damage from the club is actually affected by two multipliers on most creatures.
Finally, one small note is that while the Carno has a damage multiplier for its head, the bones are not correctly named in the bone damager adjuster fields so, intentionally or not, there is actually no multiplier for Carno headshots. I have not checked if this inconsistency appears elsewhere.
Changelog
(Old, see git commits for more recent changes)
16-08-20
Added Allosaurus and Pelagornis with devkit figures
16-06-19
Added diplodocus with devkit figures
16-05-18
Added Lystrosaurus and Arthropluera with devkit figures
16-05-03
Added Manta, updated Dire Bear with devkit figures
16-04-23
Knockout calculator now remembers settings between sessions
16-04-21
Added Dire Bear estimate
16-04-02
Added Rhino, Dunkleosteus
16-02-24
Added casteroides
16-02-18
Fixed Procoptodon torpor
Fixed Mosasaur effectiveness
16-02-07
Added Terror Bird
16-02-05
Fixed caching issues
All new narcotics timing code, now supports multiple narcotics types
Starve timer now controls the tame details summary timer
Slimming down and improvement of the UI - checkboxes become buttons etc
Help removed due to being hopelessly out of date
16-02-02
Fixed dung beetle calculation
Abbreviated text on knockout-table-summary
16-02-01
Fixed some fields trying to force integers when floats are allowed
Updated text on this page with new info on food value calculation and knockout calculation
16-01-31
Added Gallimimus, Dung Beetle, Dimetrodon from dev kit data
Fixed Oviraptor dodo egg time
Added all missing knockout methods
Added table summaries for hidden tables
Added new searchable selects
Added show/hide table animations
Vastly improved mobile usability
Reduced alarm volume
Added donate button link
16-01-22
Added Oviraptor, Procoptodon from dev kit data
15-11-23
Updated Compy, Penguin, Angler and Giganoto from new dev kit data
15-11-21
Added Compy, Penguin and Angler estimates
Fixed an error with giganoto numbers based on feedback/testing - devkit appears to be out-of-date on this, so it's labelled an estimate again
Fixed an issue with the page title feature and search engines
15-11-12
Added Giganoto dev kit values
Added spider and bat (untested, straight out of dev kit)
Removed second gigantopithecus entry, single entry is now dev kit values with one modification to being times in line with reports
If narcotics are currently in effect, torpor alarm will not sound and text will not turn red
Page title is now creature level and name for easier multi-tab tracking
Current torpor and food are now integer displays for easier editing
15-11-05
Added testing-based Giganotosaurus figures.
Sometime
Devkit based quetzal and mosasaur added.
15-10-07
Added testing-based Quetzal figures.
15-09-29
Combined several pairs of taming details rows into single rows
Hid several taming details which are not generally needed - can be made visible by ticking a checkbox
Added alarms to narcotics and starve timing
Landing page no longer caches, so updates should be spotted by the browser automatically
Removed Meat and Meat Jerky, combined cooked and jerkied prime meat into one entry, to reduce food list for carnivores
15-09-28
Added testing-based figures for the Dire World, Beelzebufo and Megaloceros
15-08-01 - 15-09-27
Everything else
Written by Crumplecorn
Last Updated 01/08/2015
Comments
Crumplecorn replied on Permalink
Mobile
Finally did this. Thanks for the tip.
Fredthebadger replied on Permalink
Cooked/Jerkied Prime calc
I'm pretty sure there was a glitch somewhere when you merged the two parts, because now the calculator is treating it as super-kibble.
The three carnivores I checked all showed 100% tame effectiveness using just Cooked/Jerkied Prime.
Crumplecorn replied on Permalink
Cooked/Jerkied Prime calc
Fixed.
Mardi replied on Permalink
Quetzal lv12 tame
27 Rex egg kibble used, lv12 pretame, lv16 posttame, +4 lv efficiency. 2988 torpor, 116 decay per minute. Aproximate 1h10m tame time, 100-125 narcotics.
2170 HP, 825 Sta, 780 weight, 110 dmg, 100 speed, 2988 torpor, 1320 food. Posttame this resulted in 2170 HP, 900 Sta, 795 weight, 211.5 dmg, 136.5 speed, 4608.5 torpor.
Level up on weight resulted in +31 kg, level up on stamina resulted in +90 sta.
Official PvE non primitive non hardcore 117 server.
SilencerNate replied on Permalink
Headshot suggestion
One suggestion that would be awesome is to include a picture of the skeletal areas that count as a "headshot" for additional damage for each dino. I imagine that most of the current dinos (carno excluded) are self explanatory, but some such as trikes are unclear. Additionally, when new dinos come out with weird shapes/sizes, like the jellyfish recently announced, it would be nice to know where to aim for maximum effect.
DissocialPersonality replied on Permalink
Calculator not loading
when ever i try to load the Calculator on chrome it doesnt load and then a box pops up page unresponsive you can wait or kill it well i wait some 2 hours and it didnt load. i killed it and reloaded it and just got the same message wait or kill and this has been going on for like 3 days so any ideas about whats going on would be appreciated?
Crumplecorn replied on Permalink
Calculator not loading
This sounds just like an issue another guy was having a few days ago which I fixed. If you haven't already, trying hitting ctrl+F5 after killing it to make sure you are running a version of the code with the fix. If that doesn't work, try clearing your cookies and opening the calculator again. If that also doesn't work get back to me, if possible with the line number on which you kill the script (chrome may report this when you kill it, I'm not sure).
DissocialPersonality replied on Permalink
Fixed It was the cookies
Fixed It was the cookies
Anonymous replied on Permalink
The Kibble needed for a 16
The Kibble needed for a 16 Quetz is 30, not the indicated 31.
Love the calculator and keep it up m8
jonatan replied on Permalink
the new bird quin somthin
it waked up 12 min before the taimer said it would
Crumplecorn replied on Permalink
Can you tell me what level it
Can you tell me what level it was?
Rei replied on Permalink
If you could enable the page
If you could enable the page name at top of tabs to change to the currently selected dino, this will enable people to keep track of multi dinos at the same time alot easier, and if you could enable maybe a bracket to appear around the name when the torp alert goes off that would be fab, just to make tracking around 5-9 dinos at the same time easier. thank you.
Lulleh replied on Permalink
Quetzal Kibble
Hello, I've just tamed a 120 Quetzal. It's eaten a total of 108 Kibble and not 120 as the calculator suggests, thought I'd let you know. =]
Multihuntr replied on Permalink
Giganto taming times
Since you know about the Gigantopithecus taming (you describe it in the Non-Violent Taming section), can you update the calculator to not have the two forms of Giganto? Instead, can you just list the actual minimum time? There's no point calculating based on [Waking Tame Feed Interval].
From your description above it seems you're not 100% clear. I admit, I've done minimal testing, but it seems pretty clear to me.
It doesn't let you feed them unless they are actually hungry enough for the food, and it doesn't let you feed them frequently, based on the [Waking Tame Feed Interval] even if they are hungry enough. But if you think about that for a second you'll realise it doesn't really affect the tame time.
There's only three things that you need to know to calculate overall tame time: the food rate, affinity required and the amount of affinity and food that mejoberries/kibble give. So,
[Number of mejoberries required] = ([affinity required]/[affinity mejoberries give])
[Time it takes for food to drop enough for 1 mejoberry] = ([food mejoberries give]/[food rate])
[Minimum time] = [Number of mejoberries required]*[Time it takes for food to drop enough for 1 mejoberry]
Crumplecorn replied on Permalink
Giganto taming times
That is how I calculate it, but the reports I've gotten don't agree with it, so I have an alternative version, and I've never tested it myself because it is such an obnoxious mechanic.
Multihuntr replied on Permalink
Giganto taming times
I'm looking at your code, and I'm thinking: What if the developers of ARK are dividing by nonviolentfoodratemultiplier instead of multiplying it? I don't know what the Devkit gives you access to, but maybe that can be checked in the code?
But, yeah. I tamed one this weekend and my times matched approximately with the reports (I didn't perfectly time it).
The resets are harsh. Twice a dilo spawned a little close and under some brushes. Instant resets. The only reasonable way to do it is to lure them into a box. Even then... I accidentally fell in and he almost killed me before I could squeeze past him (I'm in full Flak with 300 HP). Welcome to the tribe "Furious Face-Smasher".
Crumplecorn replied on Permalink
Giganto taming times
Reversing the operation as you suggest fixes the giganto, but seems to break everything else. I've left it as is and just modified the values for the giganto to get the right times.
Mazel replied on Permalink
Kibble links
It would be really handy to have a link (that opens a new tab / page) that goes to http://ark.gamepedia.com/Kibble. Makes it easy to get to the recipes. Thank you for taking the time to put this taming site together.
Evalissa replied on Permalink
level 100 Quetz torpor
level 100 quetz has 12839 torpor not 12492 shown on calc
http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/642120405084176621/6C7AA70...
Crumplecorn replied on Permalink
level 100 Quetz torpor
Hit F5 ;D
neoadn replied on Permalink
nice explanation
Hello, Thanks for your explanation. I will improve the taming calculator on my android app(free and without ads). I hope fix it. I will make a reference from this great web.
Thanks.
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/androidguideark
David replied on Permalink
decimal digits
Please, display only 1 digit after the decimal point for "Current Torpor" in the "Narcotics Timing" section. It's difficult to edit with so many numbers, specially on mobile devices.
Also the Level of the creature is difficult to edit in UCBrowser (mobile). It's like the field tries to correct itself every time I insert a number, instead of waiting until I finished editing. It's really annoying.
Thanks.
newwii replied on Permalink
maybe you can add the picture
maybe you can add the picture what dino is it
Pain replied on Permalink
Giganoto not Giganto
Title :)
Crumplecorn replied on Permalink
Giganoto not Giganto
Calculator has both.
Yordi replied on Permalink
giganoto
hey
not sure if i should report it here:
for a giganoto lvl 48 we used 32 kibble (instead of the 30 based on your calculator) (official server, normal speed)
With one more kibble to go: effectiveness: 91.0%
jimmie replied on Permalink
Giganoto
a level 44 Giganoto took 30 kibble not 29 as the calculator suggests
Anonymous replied on Permalink
Quetzal taming efficiency
Quetzal taming efficiency calculation is off. Said my 92 would tame out at +38. I'm at +37 with about 15% left to go. probably end up at +35.
Anonymous replied on Permalink
Update
No Update for the Calculator?
Crumplecorn replied on Permalink
Update
I've been busy working on... another project. To be revealed shortly.
Anonymous replied on Permalink
Gigantosaurus, 16 kibble for
Gigantosaurus, 16 kibble for a level 8 not 15 as shown on the calc.
Winfield S. Hancock replied on Permalink
Giganotosaurus kibble wrong
Someone here mentioned that level 8 giganotosaurus needs 16 kibble instead of 15. I can confirm that giganotosaurus really requires more than the calculator says. I tamed level 112 giganotosaurus. I had 54 kibble, which should have been enough. When he ate 27, it was clear that it is not half tamed, when he ate 2 more (overall 29) it was slightly over half. So I believe the accurate number of kibble for lvl 112 giganotosaurus is 57 and not 54.
Crumplecorn replied on Permalink
Giganotosaurus kibble wrong
Well, I've confirmed that my numbers agree with the dev kit, I'll retest the giganoto to see if they've changed its values since the last dev kit update.
Crumplecorn replied on Permalink
Giganotosaurus kibble wrong
I've confirmed your findings - it's actually 58 for a 112. My numbers were the same as the dev kit (and, as I recall, my estimates predicted the dev kit numbers accurately anyway), so I guess it has been changed.
I've updated the calculator based on the feedback and testing I've done, but I've labelled it as estimate again for now, as further testing would be required to get precise numbers across the entire range of levels.
Thanks for the feedback!
Ryoden replied on Permalink
Plesiosaur
I knocked out a lv 35 Plesio the other day and based on your calculator I made up 35 Rex egg kibble. After it's hunger was low enough I tossed in all 35 kibble and then backed out to watch it eat. When it was done it still had at least 5 kibble left over. Thanks for the calculator and hope it is easy to figure out this error.
Crumplecorn replied on Permalink
Plesiosaur
Plesio levels are a lie - there's a note about this in the calculator, but I accidentally disabled it at some point. Fixed now.
Uroborus replied on Permalink
Taming Calc down
Hello,
I was just wondering if the Taming Calc will be back up at some point. Of the few that are out there I really like yours the most.
Thanks.
Crumplecorn replied on Permalink
Taming Calc down
It should be up, it is for me now. I have heard of it having intermittent downtime recently, probably host issues, but it will be remaining up and actively maintained for the forseeable future.
Joe[JiG] replied on Permalink
Great Work!
Great work and very well documentation.
Keep up the work!
Anonymous replied on Permalink
Attempting to tame a stego at
Attempting to tame a stego at the moment, the calculator says a level 40 stego at taming multiplier of 3 would eat 150 crops (Long grass, savoroot...ect) to tame, and ends with an 81.8% (+16 lvls) taming effectiveness. After burning through the original 150 crops I have found the stego to only be 45% tamed, and already down to 68.4% efficency. Not to mention the 30-68 projected narcotics are no where near enough. Perhaps im doing something wrong but this might be worth looking into.
Crumplecorn replied on Permalink
Stego
I checked my numbers for the stego against the dev kit and they all match.
Anonymous replied on Permalink
thanks for the speedy reply,
thanks for the speedy reply, interesting that the numbers match, perhaps the kit is not current?
Crumplecorn replied on Permalink
Stego
It's a couple of major versions behind at the moment, though I'd be surprised if they've changed stego taming of all things.
Ryker replied on Permalink
Collaberation
hey, add me on steam. I created a calculator for Seeing how many Natural Stat Points went into each level. Wanted to see if maybe we could get this on your site!
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198071099182/
David replied on Permalink
Link dino to Ark wiki
Just to have a more streamlined experience, would you consider adding a hyperlink to each dino's page on the Ark wiki?
You could perhaps have the "Creature:" label hyperlinked, just change the href value depending on the selected option.
Thanks for a great tool!
CommonLights replied on Permalink
Mobile Friendly-ish.
Below is the code to make the taming calc more Mobile friendly, still not perfect but it works better than it currently does. If you want to do this better ditch the tables for the non tabular data. Comment on this if you need assistance and we can get in touch.
Place in header (replace *less-than* sign with < and *greater-than* sign with >):
*less-than* meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1" *greater-than*
Place in taming.css:
@media screen and (max-width: 60em) {
body {
font-size: 1.3em;
}
body, .box {
max-width: 100%;
}
table {
width: auto;
max-width: 100%;
min-width: initial;
font-size: 1em;
}
input, select {
font-size: 1em;
padding: 0.3em;
}
}
Dedzone replied on Permalink
oviraptor
Greetings Crumplecorn. Is there any chance you will be updating the calculator to include the oviraptor?
Crumplecorn replied on Permalink
oviraptor
Yep, once an updated dev kit comes out and I can find the time, I'll be adding it in.
Aquaman replied on Permalink
Mosasaurus
The calc for mosa taming is far from correct btw, not that much kibbles and time needed, but anyway the rest are pretty much correct thanks
Crumplecorn replied on Permalink
Mosasaurus
The numbers are correct per the latest dev kit release, I'll check them again when the dev kit is updated.
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